Just wondering

Which is more valuable?
A- Someone who tells you want you want to hear?
B- Someone who tells you what you need to hear?

I've always thought it was B but sadly I've been proven wrong more times than not the last couple of years and lost a few I considered friends ... none the less ... when dealing with me I'd prefer what I need even when it's not what I want to hear ..........
 
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  • 3/28/2011 1:36 PM Wayne wrote:
    My Answer: Both
    Truth without love can be hurtful. Love without truth can be deceitful. But when you speak the truth with love it is neither. Being willing to listen to truth with love when it is not what you want to hear is called a learning moment.
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    1. 3/28/2011 1:47 PM Mike Allan wrote:
      Well said Wayne ....
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  • 3/28/2011 1:50 PM Wayne wrote:
    It's the old age starting to set in....kinda puts things into better perspective
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    1. 3/28/2011 1:56 PM Mike Allan wrote:
      Who's old age? Yours,mine or both?
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      1. 3/28/2011 2:04 PM Wayne wrote:
        Both....are we including Brad in this whole old thing now that he has hit the big four oh?
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        1. 3/28/2011 2:11 PM Brad Walker wrote:
          hey now, theres no call for that  u should come around sometime and you will see that i may have hit the four oh but i still look good.  some things never change.
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          1. 3/28/2011 2:14 PM Mike Allan wrote:
            Hey Wayne, I think this may be one of those truth with love moments!!!!!
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        2. 3/28/2011 2:11 PM Mike Allan wrote:
          Oh yeah he's included "big time" ... makes me feel young watching him shuffle around the dojo .......
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          1. 3/28/2011 2:22 PM Brad Walker wrote:
            if im shuffling around the dojo, i would hate to hear what u call what u do.    i can think of a few words to describe it but i will keep them to myself for obvious reasons
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          2. 3/28/2011 2:23 PM Wayne wrote:
            Then you would have loved to have seen me a month ago. Would have made you feel like a spring chicken. It's amazing what a couple of cadaver bones and a titanium plate can fix nowadays.
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            1. 3/28/2011 2:27 PM Mike Allan wrote:
              How can a man produce such an athletically gifted offspring and not be able to walk without hurting himself?
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              1. 3/28/2011 2:31 PM Wayne wrote:
                That's what was so bad about this time...I didn't do anything, just woke up with a crick in my neck that wouldn't go away. Doc said it could have been the leading with my head that caused the damage to the disks though.
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                1. 3/28/2011 2:34 PM Mike Allan wrote:
                  Hate to her that ... I miss those days!!!!!
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                  1. 3/28/2011 2:40 PM Wayne wrote:
                    In a sick and weird kinda way....me too!
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                    1. 3/28/2011 2:41 PM Mike Allan wrote:
                      Yep I know .... the bug done bit you!!!!
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  • 3/28/2011 1:50 PM Brad Walker wrote:
    Well I can speak from experience that when u hear what u need to it can sting pretty bad sometimes. Mikd over the last few years u have always told me what I needed to hear. At times it stung pretty hard but u were always right. U always told me it was tough love and even when it hurt I am very thankful for it. Not sure what this is about, but I, for one, feel a friend who tells u what u need to hear is a much better friend than one who just tells u what u want to hear. Its a hard road to take when u tell someone something u know will hurt them but they need to hear it. The true friends will respect what u say and be appreciative. The ones who aren't that close will get mad and go away.
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    1. 3/28/2011 2:02 PM Mike Allan wrote:
      Brad, you know how much I hate to admit it but I haven't been right all the time just seems that way when you've already made those same mistakes yourself .... I'm just glad I could help in some small way and even more so than you're finally happy ......
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  • 3/30/2011 3:34 PM Doyle wrote:
    Guys,

    look at Elvis....

    it is a perfect example of people that get told what they want to her not what they need to hear. a few people that were somewhat close to him (in his Memphis Mafia)tried to tell him that the drugs were killing him. He got rid of them. The others seeing that never said anything that he did not want to hear. the end.... he died on a toliet.
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  • 3/31/2011 8:40 AM mark wrote:
    I wish Master Seiber wouldn't beat around the bush and just tell what you need to hear. Notice my blatant attempt at sarcasm. Like you all said it does sting but it's needed. Something he told me once still stands out in my mind. He told me once after watching me fight that i bored him to death. How's that for honesty. It made me want to strive harder. I miss you all . I haven't had time to work out in almost a month from having two girls playing sports. Hopefully things will slow down and can get back.
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    1. 3/31/2011 8:51 AM Mike Allan wrote:
      He is a sensitive soul!!!   I don't mind the one on one but after the Three Amigo's gang up and yell at you in the ring I go home, put on some Air Supply and have a good cry ......
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      1. 3/31/2011 9:08 AM Brad Walker wrote:
        OH MIKE!!! you hit the nail on the head.  Air Supply ROCKS!!!  Nothing gets me going when i am down better than some one on one time with the Air Supply Greatest Hits CD. 
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        1. 3/31/2011 9:11 AM Mike Allan wrote:
          They're da boom!!!!  Mix in a little Culture Club and you've got yourself a party!!!!
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        2. 3/31/2011 10:17 AM Mike Allan wrote:
          Brad, here's a little motivation for tonights class .....
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58guubpGNx8

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          1. 3/31/2011 1:17 PM Mike Allan wrote:
            It has been brought to our attention that some people might have misunderstood our last few posts to be a slam on Air Supply and their fans .... After going back and actually reading them we would like to apologize.  We would like everyone who reads this to know that we have been uber fans of Air Supply for many many years and consider them not only musical geniuses, but the heartbeat of our generation.  The purpose of our posts were to address that lost era of innocence.  I remember when saccharine oozed over the airways until it was banned by those jaded by the rock and roll ....
            I hope this clears up any misunderstanding ...

            As a token of our sincerity we offer the following ....
            http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=0&oq=millie+van&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4DKUS_enUS280US281&q=milli+vanilli
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  • 3/31/2011 9:10 AM mark wrote:
    Liberace soothes my savage soul.
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    1. 3/31/2011 9:15 AM Mike Allan wrote:
      Mark I really don't know where to begin on your last post .... Liberace or savage soul?  I'll get back to you ....
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  • 4/4/2011 8:47 AM Doyle wrote:
    To the group. You might have cleared up the mis-understanding about air supply. But you clearly forgot the culture club stab... I think you should color your commnets like my dream
    Red gold and green, red gold and green. As for Mark's re-MARK's. I don't even want to know.... But I do appreicate you clearling up that your attack on Air supply was just all of our misunderstanding. But, Please clear up the seemingly attack on Culture Club.
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    1. 4/4/2011 9:06 AM Mike Allan wrote:
      As much as  I would like to "all just get along" there are some things I just will not do in the name a political correctness.  As for Culture Club ... "I do not like them sam I am" .....
      Hey, I noticed that we got a few comments on our little family night kumite utube vid ... One was from the Cobra Kai and not very complimentary (apparently we're not Isshinryu unless we are maiming each other), but the other I loved ... "Pretty Good for a Bunch of Old Guys" ... I'm thinking of having tshrits made!!!!!!
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  • 4/4/2011 9:53 AM mark wrote:
    mike,
    what is the link on utube. which family night was it?
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    1. 4/4/2011 10:05 AM Mike Allan wrote:
      I hate to link it cause Doyle kicks me in the head ........
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeF2YShBrJs
      Not sure of the date but it was at our place ..... you would think that the smiles and laughter might give the fact away that we were just playing ....
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  • 4/4/2011 1:04 PM Doyle wrote:
    We should comment on the link that each of us aged 10 years after the match due to all the deadly dim mak isshinryu what was used during the match. I have not read thier commnets. But I will have to look it up when I need a good laugh. Remember, in the end....Sam I am changes his mind and does like Green eggs and ham. So I expect the end of your culture club rant is I do I do like Culture club sam I am.....
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    1. 4/4/2011 1:18 PM Mike Allan wrote:
      Just par for the course on utube .... I'm as guilty as the rest at seeing the faults in a video before looking for that silver lining .... but I'm working on it ....  Sam ends up liking the ham and eggs?  I knew I should have read the whole thing and not just looked at the pictures!!!!
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  • 4/4/2011 2:49 PM mark wrote:
    were you reenacting hop on pop. sorry couldn't resist. I have nothing useful to add.
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